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  3. SystronicsRF

    My Apps

    My Apps are Home Automation Apps (HA-Apps), not to be confused with Mobile Apps. The user configures an App to meet each of their home automation needs. There is no limit to the number of Apps that a user can create. No coding is required, and no add-ons, widgets, special hubs, bridges, etc., are required. The Apps are created locally by the user in their home, using a laptop, desktop, or tablet. No internet connection is needed, and nothing has to be drawn from the Cloud. A library of example Apps is provided, but users can fully customize each of their Apps to suit their individual needs. Existing users have already created many Apps to automate their home in many ways, including lighting, HVAC, security, wellbeing, and energy consumption. These range from the relatively simple, such as setting mood lighting, to very sophisticated security systems. Each App is a self-contained set of interconnected building blocks. There are two types of building block; Advanced Activators and Advanced Actions. Each Advanced Activator enables the user to define a user interface, in the form of either a tile or a dashboard pane. The Advanced Actions do all of the work. They each take data from Sensors, such as motion, contact, etc., and send commands to other Advanced Actions, and to Actuators, such as smart plugs, light switches, etc. The following is a video to illustrate a simple App for turning on a fan heater based on temperature in a room. Users only need to select where to measure the temperature and the plug that powers the heater. This can then be used as is, or customized as required.
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  5. AndrewX192

    Hacking the 2.0 Hub.

    With the release of the full HubOS (, it looks like we'll finally be able to dig into the bootloader issues and make more progress towards updating/changing the hub's software.
  6. AndrewX192

    HubOS code released

    The code & buildscripts for the IRIS Hub (v2 and v3) was released today! With this release, it should be possible to update the hub to more modern software or to generally purpose the hubs (which can be found for $5 on eBay) as general purpose devices... say for running Home Assistant, or some other lightweight system.
  7. Good to hear the 1G keypads will have another life. Guess I will hang on to my three for a while. I've been using ST but I wish it could use the 1G Iris keypads. We liked having three because I had them set to chime when ever an exterior door was opened. That way if the cat figured out how to open the door and took off for parts unknown we would be alerted. :-)
  8. Vettester

    NFC Tags & iOS 13

    For anyone who is using iOS 13 check out what you can do with NFC tags. The tags are fairly cheap (less than $1). This opens up a ton of possibilities in the HA world.
  9. SystronicsRF

    Iris Cameras

    If you’re just connecting a WiFi printer to your desktop computer, then installing it is a fairly straightforward plug-and-play procedure. If, on the other hand, you are using many different WiFi devices as part of a home automation system, then it gets more complicated. Video and audio feeds from WiFi cameras place particularly high loads on WiFi networks. If the bandwidth of the WiFi network is inadequate, then the quality of these feeds is degraded. This network degradation can also interfere with the operation of other devices, such as switching a WiFi plug on or off. Fortunately, the amount of data being transmitted to and from these devices is relatively small, so it’s most likely that they will continue to function. The transmission delays caused by the network degradation, which will normally last a few seconds, or less, will also probably go unnoticed. It can, nevertheless, cause these devices to stop communicating. The connection between the user’s cell phone, tablet, or other similar device, and the Control System is also likely to be via the home WiFi network. As the user walks round their home, the distance between their cell phone and the nearest WiFi hotspot will vary, and the WiFi hotspot to which the cell phone is connected will change. Again, this is not too important if the cell phone is just being used to switch a plug on or off. Video streaming on the other hand can be disrupted in these circumstances. The ability of the WiFi network to support the video streaming also drops off much more rapidly as the user moves their cell phone away for the nearest WiFi hotspot, than it does when controlling a smart plug, or similar device. The simplest indication of the performance of a WiFi network is obtained by sending a small packet of data from the Home LAN to each camera, and measuring the round-trip time for the packet to reach the camera, and then be returned to the LAN. This technique is known as Pinging, and the round-trip time is known as the Latency. Leaving aside the jargon, and the technicalities, this round-trip time must be less than 10 milliseconds if the video from the camera is to stream smoothly at 30 frames per second, especially when viewing multiple camera feeds. At the other extreme, if the round-trip time is more than about 100 milliseconds, then the camera can only be used in a snapshot mode, with images being sent every few seconds. Once the round-trip time approaches one second, the camera becomes unusable. The Control System automatically measures and reports the round-trip time for each camera, so that the user can decide whether to improve the performance of their WiFi network, or settle for lower resolution images that are sent less often. Similar considerations apply to recorded videos, but to a lesser degree. There has been a recent trend towards installing a WiFi hotspot in most rooms of the home in a mesh configuration, and certainly those rooms that are normally occupied, We have attempted to use Range Extenders operating in a mesh configuration to link two cameras located in a sunroom in the rear yard to the main WiFi hub. Even with 4 Range Extenders, at a total cost of just under $80, they had to be spaced closer together than we had expected, were unpredictable in their operation, and were unable to deliver the bandwidth required by the cameras. We abandoned these Range Extenders in favour of a local WiFi Router in the sunroom connected to the main LAN via a Powerline Extension. This has proved to be very reliable, and provides a more than adequate bandwidth for the cameras. The combined cost of the WiFi Router and the Powerline Extension was less than $60. These were all TP-Link devices. Notionally, it sounds like a good idea to have a WiFi mesh. After all, they’ve been doing it for years with ZigBee and Z-Wave. Not so, in our opinion. Perhaps because WiFi was never intended to be operated as a mesh, and consequently lacks the underlying network protocol. Unlike the ZigBee and Z-Wave networks, which are encapsulated by the Control System, WiFi devices share the WiFi network with other devices in the home. As with any shared system, conflicts can arise. The WiFi environment is also very dynamic, due to it being used for other purposes throughout the day, such as streaming on demand video services, like Netflix and Amazon Prime in the evening.
  10. AndrewX192

    Iris Instructional Videos Gone

    Some of the videos are now available on
  11. I don't care for any of the Hubitat dashboards so I use the Home+ 4 groups to provide a quick reference for battery levels so for me it is worth it. Check this out....
  12. @Vettester is the Home+ 4 app worth the $14? Thanks.
  13. You need to turn the heat up, way too cold in your crib.
  14. I was a beta tester as well with 3X the number of devices you have so I am very familar with this system. One of the reasons I left was because I didn't like the direction SytronicsRF was going with their browser UI. As many of us know the key to a successful home automation implementation is to make sure you maintain a high wife appreciation factor (WAF). Our significant others don't want to be bothered with clunky interfaces so a highly polished UI app is very important. In my opinion both Hubitat and SystronicsRF are focused primarily on automation functionality and have missed the boat when it comes to a polished UI app. With Hubitat I have created a HomeBridge connection to all of my devices so that I can use Apple's Home app as a UI. Apple has spent a significant amount of money developing their UI which helps keep the WAF high. Below are some screenshots from the Home and Home+ apps.
  15. SystronicsRF

    Iris Cameras

    As most Iris users probably know, Iris cameras are designed and manufactured by the Chinese company, Sercomm. These Sercomm cameras are resold by many other organizations throughout the world. For this reason, they are manufactured in much larger quantities than would be the case if they were only resold through Lowe’s. As anyone with a knowledge of manufacturing electronic equipment is aware, larger production volumes mean higher product reliability and lower production costs. We became aware of the size of the market in these camera when we mistakenly purchased a RC8221 that had been resold by ADT in South Africa. Not knowing the default password, we were unable to gain access to it. We do not know the full extent of Sercomm’s international penetration with its cameras, but it is certainly worldwide, and goes well beyond just Iris and ADT, which in itself has an international presence. We currently have 2 x OC 821, 3 x RC8221 and 5 x OC830 Iris cameras in use, all of which were purchased pre-owned via eBay. They all function perfectly, and consistently within each camera type. Neither Sercomm, nor any of the resellers, make the camera configuration information readily available. Many people have gleaned what information they can, and have hacked their cameras sufficiently to get them operational for their own purposes. We faced a slightly different situation, because we needed to gain a full understanding of them, so that we could cater for all aspects of their operation with the Control System. After extensive research on the Internet, and a lot of trial and error testing, we are now able to exercise 100% control over all three camera types. In total, across all three camera types, there are nearly 550 individual Parameters that can be set. While some Parameters are just two state, true or false, others have multiple selections, and others require actual values to be entered. There are also Parameters that have to be set in combination with other Parameters. It is anticipated that other types of Sercomm camera will have similar Parameter settings. Although they may evolve with the introduction of new products, as happened in going from the OC821 to the OC830, there is a limit to the extent that they can be changed. This large number of settings reflects the inherent capability of these very smart cameras, which are capable of satisfying many diverse requirements as standalone devices. Fortunately, much of this functionality is handled already within the Control System. The Control System also applies most of the settings automatically, when it configures a camera. This leaves only the essential manual settings that need to be exposed to the user. We are now able to deliver the full camera functionality, which is being introduced gradually to a small number of users, prior to being made more widely available. This functionality includes: Fully integrated with the Control System at device level. Fully integrated with Advanced Actions, such as trigger alarms, generate alerts, control lights, etc., in response to video motion detection and audio level detection. Multi-video streaming to local Dashboards, with users being able to design as many different dashboards as they need. Recording to a memory device, which can be anything from a memory stick to a hard drive, plugged into the Raspberry Pi’s USB port. Full screen streaming at higher resolution and higher frame rates with two-way audio. Recordings triggered by IR and video detected motion, and audio level. Scheduling video recordings. Full screen viewing of recorded videos. Management of recorded videos, archiving, deleting, etc. Adjustable camera settings, including video quality, frame rate, camera orientation, and IR. Use of the Cloud Console for remote access for streaming and viewing recorded videos. With a maximum resolution of 720p, frame rates of up to 30fps, rich colors, and the ability to adjust their brightness, contrast, and color settings, and audio streaming, these cameras are more than adequate for security purposes. Unfortunately, the performance of any WiFi camera can be degraded by the bandwidth limitation imposed by the WiFi network. If the network is unable to handle the data being delivered by a camera, then the stream becomes fragmented, delayed, and may fail completely. The user is faced with striking the best balance between improving their WiFi network, to achieve a higher bandwidth, and reducing the resolution and frame rate of the cameras. We are feeding the streams from 10 Iris cameras into a multi-screen Dashboard. The cameras are set to a low resolution (320 x 240 pixels), and a low frame rate (10 frames per second). Even so, to achieve smooth reliable streaming, we had to make significant improvements to our DrayTek based WiFi network. This included the addition of more routers / access points, and the use of powerline adapters. We have also included a snapshot option, as an alternative to streaming, to cater for the bandwidth limitations on some users’ WiFi networks. This option reduces the load on the network by only sending a static image periodically, and with the user being able to select the optimum period.
  16. I've been a Beta tester for the SRF system since Iris died last spring. I've got 78 devices, including all my old Iris stuff and many new items running nicely. Everything is working pretty solidly now. There were some (expected) issues during the early Beta phase and, as others have said, SRF is excellent in responding to issues. I'm amazed at how many devices work with the SRF hub vs any other system. The concept of using a configurable Pi for a hub vs a fixed hub such as all others use is that it's more likely adaptable to future protocols as devices hit the market. As it stands now, I'm running four different interfaces to devices in my home (legacy Zigbee; modern Zigbee; Z-Wave; and WiFi). With the ability to buy a configured Pi, the system becomes accessible for the average user that may not want to build their own hub (which is quite simple). The cost of the software, given the broad capabilities is frankly quite a bargain. I've got thousands of dollars in devices, so I'm not thinking the cost of the software is an issue as it's less than the cost of a single deadbolt. No recurring monthly costs is more significant. When Iris died, I switched my summer camp (which was all Z-wave) over to Hubitat to gain some insight into how that system worked vs SRF. I initially thought Hubitat had some pretty good capabilities, especially the configurable dashboard, but SRF has now far surpassed their approach to dashboards and allows me to build exactly what I want with a multitude of panes, including power meters, video streams, switches, graphs, and many more. It takes a little while to get used to the conventions used by SRF, but once you get the hang of it, the control possibilities are wide open. I've been able to create some complex conditional actions that would have been impossible with Iris. I think one of the strengths of the SRF system is that it would be a very powerful tool for professional automation installers to build custom system from, while retaining the ability for average users to manage their homes. I'm convinced this is the best approach for my use and am sticking with it for the long haul.
  17. The device I have was by a company called YTF and I paid about $20.00 on amazon. Just checked and it says it is now unavailable. It was a cheap solution and the reviews seemed good. It has worked really well for me.
  18. As noted above by Pavalov, the 1st Generation Iris keypad was fully integrated into the Control System in April this year. At the time, we produced the following audio track to illustrate the range of tones available: - Click Here to Download - Click Here to Play Many users have since included / re-included this keypad as part their security system, and some users are running two of them. They are able to control other devices with the keypad, such as sounding the Utilitech siren, switching a plug or a light on, as well as using it to issue a particular tone in response to a button being pressed, a door being opened, or motion being detected. Although it was designed in about 2012, it is still preferred by many ex-Iris users to the more modern version. Users also missed the control that they had previously over the chime tones, which was removed from the later versions of the Iris system. This keypad was manufactured by the Taiwanese company, Everspring. This is a specialist manufacturer of this type of keypad, as well as other smart devices, which it also sells under its own brand. These include other versions of the keypad, as well as a wide range of other ZigBee and Z-Wave devices. This accounts for the high quality of this unit, and its usability, because these reflect Everspring’s extensive experience in the design and manufacture of this type of unit. We have also bought 7 of these 1st generation keypads, and we make extensive use of them. They were all pre-owned units purchased through eBay, and are all fully functional, which is testament to the manufacturing quality of this unit. These keypads are still selling on eBay at $20.00 or less, and are an excellent value for money. It is also rumored that one user has their system set up with the code “1999”, after the line from the Prince song “So tonight I’m gonna party like it’s 1999”. Entering this code causes all of the lights in the house to light up. As well as controlling the individual chime tones, the number of chimes that are issued, and their volume can both be specified within the Control System. Each button is also individually detected by the Control System, which can be configured to respond to the On, Off, Partial, Panic, *, and # buttons individually. It can also be configured to respond to the entry of a PIN number, which can be of any length, either with or without another button, such as the On button, being pressed. In writing this post, we were reminded that one of the Gamma Users drew our attention in August to a couple of Iris features that we still need to add, and which we have now included in our To-do list. These are to indicate the alarm state by illuminating a particular button when any key is pressed, and to illuminate the LED above the numeric keys when the alarm is triggered.
  19. Hey guys great news with SystronicRF. I'm glad the V1 devices are still usable. If anyone has a need for more V1 hardware I have a ton of brand new never paired devices if anyone needs any.
  20. We'd welcome the help.
  21. I did have a few issues in the Beta, but with that said I have had lots of stability issues with Hubitat. Maybe some of those issues were actually the devices themselves, but with that said they were rock solid on Iris. Maybe I should pull it back out and see if can get it running better than Hubitat.
  22. I remember living in fear of my Iris hub dying. The battery pack in it quit years ago, and I'd have to walk around with an ethernet cable and a long extension cord attached to the hub if I had devices (like GDO's and deadbolts) that needed the hub near them to re-pair. Iris CSR's would tell me to baby it because I was out of luck if I dropped it -- they had no back-up of my system. In marked contrast, if my SRF Control System ever dies, I'm just an email away from getting the system running again -- they've got my whole system imaged. I've found them extremely responsive when I've had problems. I don't think the guys sleep. I too have never had to re-pair (or rejoin, as our Brit friends say) all the devices on my system. I have had to turn on the pairing process in order to "remind" a few Gen II ZigBee devices that they are on the system. SRF is the path I've chosen for various reasons I've expressed before. I'm pleased with my choice.
  23. I never had to re-pair a single device.
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  25. SystronicsRF

    SystronicRF system is now available to general public

    As Terminal has mentioned, anyone in the USA can now purchase a software license for the Control System. The main website has been revised to promote the use of the Control System more widely, and to include the online purchasing of licenses for the Control System software. The one-off license fee includes all of the features described in the website. There are no recurring subscription fees, and the license fee includes updates and support for the first twelve months. We have also made arrangements with a specialist Raspberry Pi Accessories supplier in the USA for them to supply pre-assembled Pi units. These include the Pi, case, charger, and Micro SD card, with the card pre-loaded with the Control System software. Although we have expressed our gratitude privately to those users who have supported us throughout the last eight months, we would also like to take this opportunity to express our appreciation more publicly. As these users know, our approach is to work closely, and honestly, with them. We greatly value their very informative feedback, and, in return, we endeavor to address every issue that they raise, both promptly and effectively. Working with the larger systems has been particularly beneficial to us, because it has enabled the Control System to be exercised and tested to the maximum extent. As a result, we have jointly made considerable progress since February. We won’t attempt to list the existing features of the Control System in this post, because they are already described in outline on the website. We will be adding more posts on this forum in the future, to both expand on the existing features, and to describe new features as they are introduced.
  26. Hmmm... when I was beta testing this my system crashed a few times as well. To restore it required re-pairing all my devices which wasn't an easy task. Reviewing the cost of this system I believe they are going to eventually price themselves out of the market. Why would someone pay $332.95 for all components necessary to run SystronicsRF when you can buy a Hubitat Elevation right now for $74.95? The only advantage SystronicRF has is they support WiFi so you can use your Iris V1 cameras with limited functionality. In my opinion the Iris cameras are junk so the extra cost for WiFi is not justified. You could use the $258 cash savings and build a Blue Iris server which would give you full local control of your IP based cameras.
  27. Terk

    Iris Instructional Videos Gone

    Hubitat updated their supported list with reset/pairing instructions for most everything they support including most of the Iris devices
  28. OhioYJ

    Iris Instructional Videos Gone

    Glad you thought to do this. I know before they shutdown I downloaded manuals for everything I had and could find.
  29. What is the source of this device? I have a couple Sanyo mini-split systems that I would like to be able to control. They have an IR remote but no provision for BT or Wi-Fi connection. I found this unit from Sensibo which looks promising. Any chance this can be controlled by SystronicsRF ?
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