GaryS1964

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    Device that can show power failure

    I have this one: https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1000PFCLCD-Sinewave-Outlets-Mini-Tower/dp/B00429N192/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3 I have pretty good power which rarely goes down and usually only for a short time. It powers my Hubitat hub and everything necessary to keep my internet connection working. All that stuff draws little power so it will keep it working for a long time and nothing has to reboot. It's primary purpose is to keep my security system up and running if the bad guy(s) turn off my power which they have been known to do in an attempt to defeat an alarm system.
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    Tips for migrating to Hubitat

    I got the IRIS V3 keypad working. Not sure exactly how I did so I'm not going to mess with it to figure it out.😁 I do believe that the LCM was not working properly as I would enter data and nothing would happen. Then suddenly my information appeared and it was transferred to the keypad details which is all that needed to happen as I was already able to communicate with the keypad. I believe I entered the data into the LCM properly and for whatever reason it didn't update properly and show the code user as it does now. However operator error is always a possibility. So now my system does everything IRIS did with one exception. It doesn't work with my nest thermostat. There is a way via IFTTT but I was hoping to keep everything local and IFTTT seems to require the internet although I'm not sure of that. I went the predominantly ZigBee route. The only Z-Wave things I have are my two Utilitech sirens. When I had one siren it never worked outside my home office which is where the IRIS hub was located and now the Hubitat hub is located. When I got the second one it coincided with my purchasing the V3 IRIS hub which had more powerful radios and I was able to place the second siren out in another room. I even got it working my backyard lighting on a schedule which makes my wife happy as the transformer did hum loudly even when the lights were off and it was near our bedroom wall. Now it turns completely off via the IKEA plug and she is happy and life is good.
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    Looking for 2nd gen motion

    Check eBay. I picked up 10 for about $5 each. Used but all paired with a Hubitat hub and work just fine. It's hard to find them cheap.
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    Not ready for prime time

    I looked at all the available systems and ultimately chose Hubitat mostly because of it's potential. Having said that I don't believe it is a good option for former IRIS users unless they are "geeks" who love spending hours trying to figure out how to make things work. Documentation is sparse and obviously written by people who know exactly how something works and assumes everyone else does also. As an example if you search for the word "keypad" in the documentation you will find several references however none of them explain the 20+ panels on the keypad device manager window and there is nothing in the documentation that tells you what they all do or how to use them. It also doesn't support Arlo cameras or Nest thermostats both of which I own. While IRIS didn't support Arlo cameras at least I was able to have it automatically set my Nest thermostat to "off" when I armed my alarm and to 70 degrees when I disarmed my alarm. I have hope that someday Hubitat will be able to do that plus turn my Arlo cameras on when an intrusion is detected. The community tries to be helpful but so far no one has come forward who can tell me how to use the IRIS V3 keypad in Hubitat so I struggle to make it work myself. Using the built in function that is supposed to turn lights on and off I have managed to get lights to turn on and off via motion sensors. However, I have not been able to get it to turn a lamp on 30 minutes before sunset and off at 11PM. I created the rule but it doesn't work so I have another problem to figure out. There are members of the Hubitat community who say they have things working including security but so far none have come forth to tell me how to make my IRIS V3 keypad work like a security keypad is supposed to work. It's not a secret that software developers in general do not like to write documentation. In Hubitat's case I would recommend they hire a professional documentation writer if they ever want Hubitat to become a mainstream home automation and security product. Otherwise it will most likely be relegated to being a fringe product which ultimately fails. This last part is just my opinion and of course I could be wrong and I hope I am. Hubitat is not a turnkey system like IRIS was. IRIS was not perfect but for the most part it worked for both security and home automation and it was relatively easy to setup. Now I have invested $100 in the Hubitat hub so I'll continue to see if I can make it work. Being retired I have the time. Not sure I have the patients. Bottom line is decide what is most important to you in a system and then how much time and effort you are willing to put into it to make it work. If security is your primary consideration then you might want to look elsewhere. Personally I think security is the most important thing. Intrusion detection, fire detection, water intrusion detection are things that help keep you safe and prevent expensive problems from happening. Home automation is nice but it is more of a gimmick feature as opposed to something that can maybe save your life and save you money.
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    Not ready for prime time

    Well I finally got my IRIS V3 keypad working. By working I mean it will arm and disarm my security system. I would like to tell everyone who is struggling to get their keypad to work exactly how I did it but the truth is I don't know. I just kept trying different things and finally got it to arm and disarm my system. I do plan to address how I think I finally got it working over in the Hubitat Community fourms. Hopefully point those still having trouble in the right direction. The wife will be happy because she liked just pressing the ON button on the keypad and walking out the door and then entering the code and pressing the OFF button when she got home. I was listening to the podcast on YouTube that was mentioned in another thread. Doesn't sound like they are going to do much to improve the documentation any time soon so so it will be one of those systems you are going to have to tinker with and as such some things will be easy and others will be frustratingly difficult. Patients and persistence in large quantities will be required. Things that I set up when I first got my hub are just simply working. I don't even think about them. They just work. In the two weeks (not a long time) I've had my hub nothing has failed to work once I set it up properly.
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    Podcast with Hubitat on Thursday Night the 18th

    Just watched the podcast on YouTube. It was pretty interesting. I'm convinced I made the right decision to go with Hubitat.
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    Tips for migrating to Hubitat

    I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not the only one requesting help with setting up security using an IRIS keypad. I've only spent three or four hours on it and haven't worked on it in a couple of days. Most of the time spent was searching the Hubitat community forums and documentation. I have all the basic home automation stuff working which is a plus. There are still a couple more things in HA that I want to do. but all the basics are working. It's just the security part I'm having trouble with and it is mostly the keypad. I can arm and disarm the system from the device manager page. I can trigger an alarm with motion and contact sensors. It's just integrating the keypad. But I'll keep plugging away at it. I think someone else here said it best. I'll paraphrase but my understanding of what they said was Hubitat is not a single app. It is a group of apps that do different things within the Hubitat environment. Sometimes you have to use multiple apps to get something done. I'll keep plugging away and if I finally get it to work I'll post in Community.Hubitat how it's done so hopefully no one else will have to struggle with it. I'll also post a link to it here in this forum. I got the home automation stuff working so I'm confident I'll get the security stuff working. Fingers crossed.
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    Tips for migrating to Hubitat

    I have added the Safety Monitor app. I added it last week. It was one of the first things I did. Please point me to the place in the documentation that it explains how to integrate a keypad into a Hubitat security system and what the 20+ buttons (clickable panesl?) on the Keypad device page are for and how to use them to setup your keypad. Please point me to the place in the documentation where it explains how to use the the Safety Monitor app to set up a security system that uses a keypad to arm and disarm a security system. I could go on but I won't. It's not my intent to bash Hubitat. I'm letting former IRIS users know that Hubitat requires a significant amount of knowledge to setup a functioning security system and the documentation does not provide much (dare I say any) help. May I make a suggestion. Instead of arguing with me about whether or not Hubitat is a good choice for the average former IRIS user why don't you simply write out step by step instructions on how to setup a security system using a IRIS keypad (V3 in my case) and IRIS motion sensors (V2 in my case) and IRIS contact sensors (V1 in my case)? Better yet do it in the Hubitat forums where they would be available to all Hubitat users.
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    Not ready for prime time

    Hubitat has great potential. It lacks usable documentation. For "geeks" it's a great product with so much capability. I'm in between "geek" and average user. Not sure who I'm closer to. Hubitat is frustrating and time consuming but I'm sticking with it as my only system.........for now.
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    GE Z-Wave Plug-in Dimmer

    LOL!! That's one way to solve the problem.
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    Podcast with Hubitat on Thursday Night the 18th

    Suggest, off air, that if they want to be more than a product for "geeks" they need to hire an experienced documentation writer.
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    Tips for migrating to Hubitat

    I only have two Z-Wave devoces. Both Utilitech sirens. The older of the two paired immediately the first try. The new one took numerous attempts over two days before it finally paired. Putting Hubitat in pairing mode before putting the siren in pairing mode seemed to make it work although after so many tries I don't remember what I did that got it to pair. The key is persistence for the stubborn devices. That's been my experience.
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    Tips for migrating to Hubitat

    I have the "simple" things working just fine now. The main reason I purchased IRIS in the first place was security. Home automation was a plus. I can easily turn lights off and on manually if necessary although it is nice to have it happen automatically because I don't have to be home to have them come on or remember to turn them off when I leave a location such as the MBR Closet or garage. Being retired I have the time and having developed computer programs for others I possess some of the skills. I don't however speak the C language. I suspect I will eventually figure it out but it shouldn't be that difficult. Hubitat needs to hire an experienced documentation writer if they ever expect to become mainstream. That's my opinion. I'm hoping for the best for them but in the meantime I'm sorta frustrated and judging from some of the comments here and on their forums I'm not alone. Personally I don't think they can survive as niche product. They need to go mainstream and to do that the average inexperienced user needs to be able to buy their product and use it using the provided documentation. Otherwise it will remain niche product. They also need a steady income stream. It's great that they are bringing all these different products together but they need to tell people how to put it all together. Some have apparently succeeded. I guess they got lucky or they possess more knowledge than I do. I quoted only the Simple Lighting part of your comments. That is a good start. Now they need to do the same thing for security. Once the basics (security and basic automation) are setup people can experiment and do more sophisticated stuff. Right now the "simple security" component is missing and I could be wrong but for me anyway if I'm going to spend the money security is important, in fact must have, and automation that simply provides convenience are a bonus. Those who used IRIS primarily for security, are not "geeks", and want something that works out of the box. They will be best served by looking elsewhere.....at least for now. Having said all that I stand by my original statement. Hubitat is not ready for prime time. However I still believe it has the greatest potential of the systems I explored. The one thing they are missing is documentation that will tell the inexperienced user who buys their hub how to set up security and how to set up some basic automation features. I'm not an expert but pandering only to "geeks" (I consider myself below geeks) is not the ticket to long term success, in my opinion. On the plus side if Hubitat fails as a business there is an active group of users who can keep the product alive for those that own a hub. Hubitat can already do more than many systems. It's just not easy to get it to do some of those things.
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    Not ready for prime time

    I just started looking at IFTTT and linked it to Hubitat. It does appear it will help solve my Arlo cameras and Nest thermostat integration issues. I'll take a look at your response to my keypad issues. Thanks for that.
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    Not ready for prime time

    The only thing I can think of is that when you go into the device panel there is a place where you can set a reference temperature. It works for me. Have you tried that?
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    Not ready for prime time

    We are in agreement especially in regards to the state of the documentation. I still think Hubitat has the greatest potential but it is currently not the best choice for typical former IRIS users, who are the target of this forum, who are looking for a turnkey solution. Hubitat will require a lot of knowledge, time, and effort to get it to do what IRIS did out of the boxc. In the end Hubitat can do so much more if you have the time, patients, and requisite knowledge to make it work. I've spent hours and I'm nowhere close. SystronicsRF and others should pay attention to yours and my complaints. The race is on. In my opinion the winner will be whoever produces a product that the average consumer or in this case the average former IRIS user can purchase and easily setup and use by following the provided documentation.
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    Not ready for prime time

    I appreciate your comments. It is my opinion that Hubitat is not ready for prime time. By prime time I mean for the average Joe or Jane or former IRIS user for that matter with no security or home automation experience could setup a security/home automation system by following the supplied documentation. I think I explained my reasons fairly well. Their documentation is lacking. The IRIS V3 Keypad driver has over 20 buttons or whatever they call those clickable panels. Nowhere in the documentation does it explain what they all are used for or how to use them to get the keypad to arm or disarm a security system. I clicked on them all. Some seem to do nothing. I spent a lot of time reading the documentation and posts in the community forum to glean some useful setup information. So far all I can do is arm the keypad by pressing the ON button on the keypad or in the device driver. I am not able to disarm it from the keypad but only from the device driver. There are no step by step instructions on how to implement that basic task of a keypad. I obviously still have more to figure out. I suspect now it may involve changing modes but I haven't had the time to experiment with that yet. Then there is the matter of simply turning on my living room lamp 30 minutes before sunset. I built the rule but it does not work. I can turn it on and off from the device driver so there is communication. Next step is to delete the rule and rebuild it as all my other tinkering with the keypad issue may be causing the rule to fail. On the plus side the lights in my garage and master closet go on and off based on motion sensors. That makes the wife happy. You are not the typical user. I have read many of your posts which clearly suggest that you have experience the typical individual does not have and that experience allows you to master these types of systems. As for my experience I have built, repaired, and modified my own computers. I have written rather sophisticated computer programs using Clarion by SoftVelocity and WinDev which build the basic programs for you but to get additional functionality you have to add your own code. However I don't have any C coding experience which I believe is the language of Hubitat. I chose Hubitat after looking at the other alternatives. I think it has the most promise and since making my initial post I have linked Hubitat to IFTTT.COM where it appears I may be able to control my Arlo cameras and Nest thermostat. Having said that I stand by my conclusion that Humitat in it's current state is not ready for prime time and unless the developers hire a professional documentation writer it may very well always be a product only for "geeks" who like to tinker with stuff like this if the company survives at all. This is a forum for former IRIS users. A place where they can go to get information about where to go next. I think I gave anyone who may read my post an honest assessment of the current state of Hubitat. Personally I will continue plugging away at trying to get my IRIS V3 keypad to be the focal point of arming and disarming my security system because that is what my wife is use to and I want to keep her happy. Press the ON button and the system arms. Enter the code and press the OFF button and the system disarms. Simple as that only getting it to do that is not so simple.
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    Tips for migrating to Hubitat

    That is an understatement. I'm confident the developers at Hubitat want to create a user friendly system but right now it is anything but user friendly. I want to add my IRIS V3 Keypad to my Hubitat system and make it function like it did under IRIS. Hubitat does have a built in driver for this keypad (kudos to Hubitat) but so far all I've been able to do is add it to my list of devices where using the web interface I can arm and disarm my security system; however from the keypad itself I can only arm the system which basically means I don't have a security system. There is almost no documentation that explains how to use it or any keypad in a Hubitat security environment. There are over 20 panels on the V3 keypad device driver page with almost no explanation on what they are used for or how to use them to make the keypad function as a device that arms and disarms your security system. Documentation for other parts of the system are sparse if it exists at all. Relying on the "community" to help you is hit and miss. I posted a request for help with my keypad issues. So far there have been been 76 views and no replies. Given all the views with no replies I have to assume that the majority of the people viewing are like me looking for a way to create a security system within the Hubitat environment using a keypad. Hubitat needs to hire an experienced documentation writer. On the plus side I have been able to get a couple of lights to turn on and off based on a motion sensor sensing or not sensing any motion. However I still can't get my living room lamp to turn on 30 minutes before sunset. Hubitat has great potential but is definitely not ready for prime time. Currently it is only for those who enjoy trying to figure things out on their own and have a high tolerance for frustration.
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    Question from a Hubitat newbie

    OK. I made the decision to go with Hubitat and ordered the hub yesterday. Don't know how long it will take to get here but in the meantime I have some questions. What smart plugs should I get. I have a bunch of IRIS WiFi Smart Switches (CW1606A plugs made by Swann) which as far as I can tell won't work with Hubitat so I need to replace them with smart plugs that will work with Hubitat. It would be nice if they worked with other systems in case I have to bail on Hubitat. Looking at the Hubitat list of supported devices there are several so which ones work the best? FYI - I'm in the USA.
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    Question from a Hubitat newbie

    Anyone using the IKEA outlet. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30356169/ Inexpensive compared to other brands and reviews seem to indicate they work well.
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    Question from a Hubitat newbie

    With the IRIS V1 and V2 hubs and keypads I always had a signal strength problem and sometimes had problems with arming and disarming the alarm. When I got the V3 of each of those that problem went away but we know what happened soon after. Not having the Hubitat hub yet I don't know how strong a signal I will have in places like my garage where the signal has to go through an interior wall and two exterior walls to reach my devices in the garage. So I'm thinking anything I can do to boost signal strength is a good idea therefore plugs with a repeater function would probably be helpful. On the other hand I don't want to spend $40-$50 each for them. The ones I had were WiFi but I'm thinking about sticking with Zigbee as I read some reviews on Amazon that some users were experiencing large amounts of data transfer with the Tan Tan Smart Plugs sold on Amazon. Therefor I'm thinking it is best to not provide hackers with another potential entry point into my WiFi network. I'm not a fan of Zwave as my initial experience with it was poor signal strength. I had a Utilitech siren that wouldn't work outside my home office or reach to my garage in order to operate my garage door and both were Zwave. Having said that after getting the V3 hub I was able to place a second Utilitech siren outside my home office so I don't know if it was a function of the stronger radios in the V3 hub or having another Zwave device in my system.
  22. Has anyone figured out a way to get the IRIS WiFi Smart Switch to work with either Alexa or Google Home Assistant directly without having it paired to the IRIS hub? I'm talking about the CW1606A switch.
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    Who hasn't migrated already?

    I definitely understand not wanting to be locked into one thing. I have bee considering SimpliSafe for security and I'm looking for something that can integrate my Arlo cameras, Ring doorbell, and Nest thermostat along with IRIS G2 motion sensors and IRIS WiFi Smart Plugs for home automation. I think Wink would handle all the HA stuff but I've read that a lot of those who have tried it say it's has issues. I'm still looking.
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    Who hasn't migrated already?

    Does this mean you have given up on ARCUS? I've been looking at Hubitat but I was hoping to find something that would work with my Nest thermostat. IRIS turns it on and off when I set and turn off the alarm. Like your photo suggests I will probably end up with more than one system. One for security and another for home automation at a minimum. I guess that's what we get when HA and associated security options are in their infancy. Seems to me Alexa and Google Home Assistant are really missing the boat by not offering a security option as well as HA not requiring voice input.
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    What will work?

    I have searched but can't find the answer anywhere. What, if anything, in the IRIS system will continue to work on April 1st? Does anything run locally on the hub or does everything go through the cloud.? I'm pretty sure security won't work. But what about sensors that detect motion and turn lights on and off based on rules? Do they need the internet or do they run locally?