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    Visa Cards

    Did anyone register online ? If you go to that myprepaid.info site it looks a little sketchy ...
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    Visa Cards

    My $1,000 card is showing it shipped, to arrive Thursday. No info on the second ~ $200 card.
  3. Sorry for adding yet another thread, but I don't see this topic being discussed yet. I'm sure they mean it when they say 3/31 is the planned shutdown.... but ..... what are the chances that the gift cards don't get shipped out quickly and Lowe's decides they don't want to leave people hanging and they extend the shut down date a few months? Or..... despite saying they did not find a buyer, That their own employees or some separate company gets access to their code, and the devices/app function in April under another name? I think it's very very very unlikely that this happens... but what does everyone think about leaving their devices paired until mid to late March (just in case) vs removing and porting to your new system now? I'd rather leave 90% of my system (V1 sensors, alarm, etc.) working until the last minute... but I don't want the shutdown to render the app useless, then you'd be unable to remove them via IRIS and from my understanding it would require each device to be reset. Lastly, that's my other question.... on 4/1 do we just get the "IRIS Shut down.......... with our sincere apologies" message and it's dead? Or could the app be non-functional but still allow you to remove devices? I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of a "soft landing" approach happens in April, ex. services don't work but you can still access the app for a month. Thoughts?
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    What Platform Should I Migrate To

    Can you have the old and new app working at the same time ? (if you don't know yet what you'll prefer) ?
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    Researching the Ring.

    So just like the title of this thread, I've been researching the Ring for a few weeks. Most of my comments have already been posted by others, but I thought I'd summarize my review of the system after 2 days. I bought: Ring Pro Doorbell Ring Alarm Overall App I'm pretty impressed with the app. It's very clean looking and quick. The look changes a little from the Doorbell after you add the alarm... and again if you enable the clip preview function but I'm very happy with it. From what I gather, Smart Things sounds like it has a ton of programming options, IRIS probably in the middle, and Ring has fewer... but for the most part the basic functions can do everything you need. Like you can turn on alerts individually for each sensors, change the alarm entry/exit delay, etc. It's hard pressed to think of something that's critical that you lose when going from IRIS to Ring for security. Video history screen is pretty smooth. Instead of showing large thumb nails like IRIS, the history just shows motion, manually viewings, and doorbell presses in a list with a time stamp and when you click on each one then it plays the video. Security Hardware The sensors are definitely larger than IRIS, but the contact sensors actually have a little light that pops up for a second when they open/close. The keypad is vastly better than the IRIS V1 hub (I'm sure the V2 was better though) It appears that it has an internal rechargeable battery and you mount a bracket to the wall and when you need to recharge it you just remove the keypad itself from the bracket, charge, and replace. It has a motion sensor in it and if the battery saver feature is off, when you walk up to it it lights up to confirm what mode it's in. It looks pretty cool. As mentioned earlier, the door "chirps" come from the hub not the keypad, but even though it's in my basement I can still hear them. Hopefully they add chirps to the keypad or a chime device in the future. Security Software Notifications are instant I haven't seen this yet since I'm on the self monitored option so far, but from my understanding you can switch from self to professionally monitored at any time. That could potentially be useful for periods that you are home or think you could have a false alarm, vs times you are away and want no chance of the police showing up. Huge feature if you ask me. Little thing, but it's weird that after a motion detector sees motion, it seems like it takes a while for it to say no motion You can tie the cameras to record off alarm... it says "entry delay and alarm event". At first I didn't understand entry delay... but I think what it means is that if you enter your home and the 30 second countdown begins, I think it immediately records and continues if the alarm goes off. At first I thought this could me annoying if every day when I get home it records despite disarming immediately, but after thinking about it... my older non wireless IRIS cameras would only record after the alarm goes off so in theory there's a dead spot with an intruder in my house. (understand it could record off motion but I didn't want it recording non stop while I'm home) I paired it with an Alexa skill and you can tell it to arm or disarm and then enter your 4 digit pin. That's kind of cool, but I think it would still be quicker to enter the pin on the keypad. Other Devices As mentioned earlier, I paired my Schlage lock to it and it responds quicker and I like that you can add a guest code easily. I'm likely going to buy a stick-up cam, as I'm very impressed that you can easily toggle for motion alerts and record off motion, or tie it to an alarm event I'm going to buy the dome siren, smoke listener, and likely try out the $80 path lighting kit. Service Cost I'm planning on subscribing to the $100/year plan which will give me professional alarm monitoring and unlimited camera storage. I think that's a good deal. It also gives you 10% off products so if I buy another $400 (Stick up cam, siren, more door sensors, etc.) I figure to save $40 on hardware I was already going to buy Wrap Up In Summary, I think the Ring system is the best fit for me for security and cameras. Hardware cost and $100/year service plan seems really reasonable. With Amazon's purchase or Ring, the Alexa eco system, and their recent purchase of Eero, planned release of Ring lighting products, and more... I expect this to be a rapidly growing eco system. I plan on getting a $65 Smart Things hub so my light switches, bulbs, thermostat, etc. will instantly work, but in the future I'll play it by ear and see whether if new products get added to the Ring/Alexa or Smart things. Speculating on the Future of Ring/Alexa They're owned by the same company but as of now they're different apps/products. I'm trying to figure out how they'll merge/integrate them together in the future.. but here's my guess... I know you can pair some bulbs directly to the full size Echo speaker w/o a hub, but to me the Alexa smart home app to me appears to be more of a compliment to an existing system (adding a voice assistant) than a primary ecosytem/app. My guess.... Amazon will use the Ring brand and app to be their primary smart home app and after the outdoor lighting is released they will eventually start adding indoor lighting, etc. making it more like the IRIS ecosystem, but allowing it to be tied in to Alexa for voice commands. Think about it this way... we always wondered how IRIS or Wink makes any money and can be sustainable. With Prime... they want as many people sucked into their $100+ a year subscription as possible.. last I saw it was over $4B a year in revenue. They likely don't make money on their dots and they don't make money by allowing someone elses hardware to link via skill.... so that's why I think their ultimate plan is going to be to grow the Ring eco system to get everyone in America to have a Prime Subscription and a Ring Protect subscription. We'll see, but my theory is they will keep the Ring and "works with Alexa" products separate by branding but all Ring items will of course work with Alexa Let me know if anyone has any questions, but I strongly recommend picking up the $159 5 piece kit at best buy with a free echo dot as a low risk trial, or the 10 piece kit for $200 at Costco.
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    Researching the Ring.

    My usage sounds identical to yours... always enter through the garage and the Schlage is for guest. That's what I'm saying that for my rare guest use, I never have a complaint... but when I'm testing it again/again/again I see the issues. If it works fine for guests I'm OK with it.
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    Researching the Ring.

    I got it work. I agree, I generally it seems more responsive than Iris Also you couldn’t add guest pins easy with Iris, (had to setup a user). You can just add a guest pin piece of cake with ring. I like that. 4/5 times the lock works ... but occasionally when testing it again and again it just says failed to work. I had the same issue with Iris with repeated use ... I just accepted it. For using it just once to arrive and once to leave it never failed. Ever have that problem?
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    Researching the Ring.

    Double checking .... did you have to in-pair the Schlage lock from Iris before it would allow you to pair ? I’m a little reluctant to unpair until I’m ready to move on from Iris but I was curious to see if it was possible to have it paired to both. Is the process just pushing the Schlage button, entering the 6 digit original code then 0, then the Ring app finds it ? Didn’t work for me but I hadn’t removed it from Iris.
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    Researching the Ring.

    My trim piece where my existing door bell is very narrow, the ring 2 wouldn't look at good.
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    Researching the Ring.

    Ok thanks for the clarification. Id like to maximize the savings but honestly with my door the Pro would look a lot better than the 2 so I don’t mind paying a little more. My strategy instead of Costco... 1. Buy the Pro doorbell at Best Buy w/ free Echo Dot for $199. (Website says Dot 2nd gen but display said 3rd gen in store) 2. Install and sign up for $100/year service. 3. One benefit of the Pro service is a 10% discount on Ring hardware. I plan on buying the stick up cam, Siren, flood sensor , etc, anyhow so the 10% over those items would be nice. Note: the Pro Dell Bell isn’t eligible for the 10%. I’m mildly interested in the $80 path lighting 2 pack with a hub too.
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    Researching the Ring.

    Wait a second .... the year of protect monitoring service costs $100/year Are you saying the 10 piece alarm kit ($259 on ring.com) is only $219 and you get the $100/year protect plan for free? I don’t doubt they would give you the $30/year camera plan with a doorbell for free but sorry if I’m skeptical but giving you the $259 10 piece alarm system + $100 protect plan ($359 value) for $219 seems too good to be true. Is it ?
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    Researching the Ring.

    I keep seeing a lot of potential with Ring, but some things that could be improved. They have lighting products that were shown at CES that are for sale on their site that also include a lighting hub and a smaller motion sensor than the one that comes with the alarm kit. I checked with their support, that new smaller motion sensor only works with the lighting and it does not work for the alarm. Seems a little silly doesn't it... that you can buy the ring alarm hub.... but that all the other lighting products communicate with a separate hub and it's not a universal hub? I was hoping they'd start to roll out more products into a hub / app solution, but if this is what they're doing with the latest products it seems strange.
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    Researching the Ring.

    Thanks for the info. Let us know how the dome siren works and if you think it's very loud. Regarding the lack of keypad "chirps" , If it counts down for the alarm arming, it obviously should be capable of playing door chirps, so you never know may they'd update it during a future update. I went to best buy and looked at the kits, they seem nice and are on sale with a free echo dot. Seems like this is a good choice.
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    Researching the Ring.

    Thanks for the info, I'll keep researching on the cameras. I just figured if you're paying the $100/year for the Ring service, it would be beneficial to pair that with the cameras since it includes storage as well. Some other questions on the Ring security.... I had my IRIS hub tucked away in the basement, a keypad by the door, and the Utilitech siren mounted high above reach. I liked having my keypad "chirp" when you open a door. I'm reading conflicting things on the "chirping". It sounds like only the hub "chirps", is that correct? It also appears the siren is internal to the hub but that you can buy a secondary dome siren. It's not the end of the world, but isn't it kind of dumb to have the siren internal to the hub? That's telling the intruder "the hub is down here, come unplug or smash me". What did you do for mounting locations and the "chirp" settings?
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    Researching the Ring.

    What other devices from IRIS work with Ring so far other than the Schlage lock (I have the same one). It would be nice if the leak sensors would eventually work but I see you can buy ones from them (I wouldn't mind, have the gift card from Lowes) What Cameras are you using with Ring? I'm having a hard time deciding between Arlo and Ring. The doorbell is the popular one, but I'm more interested in a high mounted (stick up) camera for outdoor and another for indoor.