Arlo Pro 2 Cameras vs Iris Cameras
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Hey guys, I know these cameras have audio so that’s a plus but is the video substantially better than the iris cameras? Could you actually identify a person from 30 feet?

 

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I only have the original Iris cameras to compare against, but those were not very good.  I have the Arlo system, a total of 13 cameras including Pro, Pro 2, and Q.  It's not a bad system but it's pricey.  They are getting into smart object detection (people, person, animal) as well as package detection (recognizing the UPS guy).  They just came out with a 4K system but I have no experience with that.

If you're considering SmartThings, Arlo has a direct integration, including the ability to start/stop recording, turn the cameras on and off, plus use the cameras PIR and video motion detection features as motion sensors in SmartThings.  I wrote the ArloPilot app which can be used to synchronize the SmartThings alarm system states to the Arlo system.

When I left the Iris dumpster fire several years ago I made a decision to diversify my smart home tech to discreet, stand-alone components that can function without a hub, yet be integrated with one.  I went with Arlo for cameras, Ring for the doorbells, Hue for lighting, Ecobee for the thermostats, and Harmony for my entertainment center.  All of those function on their own, yet all of them can be integrated via SmartThings as well. 

I highly recommend that strategy as it reduces the footprint of impact of a hub failure or in this case, platform shutdown.

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I only have the original Iris cameras to compare against, but those were not very good.  I have the Arlo system, a total of 13 cameras including Pro, Pro 2, and Q.  It's not a bad system but it's pricey.  They are getting into smart object detection (people, person, animal) as well as package detection (recognizing the UPS guy).  They just came out with a 4K system but I have no experience with that.
If you're considering SmartThings, Arlo has a direct integration, including the ability to start/stop recording, turn the cameras on and off, plus use the cameras PIR and video motion detection features as motion sensors in SmartThings.  I wrote the ArloPilot app which can be used to synchronize the SmartThings alarm system states to the Arlo system.
When I left the Iris dumpster fire several years ago I made a decision to diversify my smart home tech to discreet, stand-alone components that can function without a hub, yet be integrated with one.  I went with Arlo for cameras, Ring for the doorbells, Hue for lighting, Ecobee for the thermostats, and Harmony for my entertainment center.  All of those function on their own, yet all of them can be integrated via SmartThings as well. 
I highly recommend that strategy as it reduces the footprint of impact of a hub failure or in this case, platform shutdown.

Wow!!! Thanks for that info!!!

With the iris cameras I have which are gen 2, in low light there is no way to recognize someone’s face. Someone broke into our vehicles and you could see the people but could not recognize their faces even when they looked right at the cameras.

Do the Arlo Pro 2 Cameras have high quality video?

Also, you have me leaning toward Smarthings now but I’m hearing they are starting to lag on their tech support and that worries me.

I was thinking of going with Wink? It appears however that they don’t support the Pro 2?

Thanks again buddy!!!


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Thanks Vett! Do they work with Wink and SmartThings?


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Thanks Vett! Do they work with Wink and SmartThings?


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No, you would have to create a standalone surveillance system. I did this a few years ago using Blue Iris and have never regretted it.

The video quality is so much better that it has gotten to the point that whenever something happens in my neighborhood the police stop by to see if I captured anything on my cameras.

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No, you would have to create a standalone surveillance system. I did this a few years ago using Blue Iris and have never regretted it.

The video quality is so much better that it has gotten to the point that whenever something happens in my neighborhood the police stop by to see if I captured anything on my cameras.

Lol, well they sound like great cameras!!! I really want Cameras to integrate into one of those platforms but I am now keeping those cameras in mind! Thanks Vett!


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The problem with the cloud based cameras is they typically only record on motion and I know their motion sensing capability is not 100% accurate. My cameras record 24/7 so I’m guaranteed not to miss anything.


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The problem with the cloud based cameras is they typically only record on motion and I know their motion sensing capability is not 100% accurate. My cameras record 24/7 so I’m guaranteed not to miss anything.


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You can have the Arlo Pro 2 record 24/7 but you have to pay and I’m done doing that!


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9 hours ago, Vettester said:

 

The problem with the cloud based cameras is they typically only record on motion and I know their motion sensing capability is not 100% accurate. My cameras record 24/7 so I’m guaranteed not to miss anything.

 

The Arlo's after a few firmware updates over the years have now proven to be pretty reliable at triggering recording from motion.  They wireless and 4k cameras also have the ability to connect a hard drive or USB stick to the base station for local recording.  My only complaint is their CVR plans are too pricey so I'm passing.

I also strongly suggest investing in a couple IR Flood Illuminators for whatever camera you get.  I've never seen ANY camera that has decent night vision using only internal LED's.

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17 hours ago, IrisUsers said:

The Arlo's after a few firmware updates over the years have now proven to be pretty reliable at triggering recording from motion.  They wireless and 4k cameras also have the ability to connect a hard drive or USB stick to the base station for local recording.  My only complaint is their CVR plans are too pricey so I'm passing.

I also strongly suggest investing in a couple IR Flood Illuminators for whatever camera you get.  I've never seen ANY camera that has decent night vision using only internal LED's.

Agree with the illumination problems that most cameras have, at least the low end ones under $200.

I have a hard-wired video system that covers the exterior of the house, and over the years I have had to replace a couple cameras that died of old age after running 24/7 for 5+ years. What I found out was the camera itself was dead but the IR LEDs were still working fine, so I took a couple of those 'dead' cameras and mounted them where they could serve as fill-in IR lights, all I had to do was get power to them, no worries about video. So now it looks like I have more active cameras than I do, and those areas that needed some IR fill light are not so dark now. One of them I mounted on my shed which is way off in the corner of the lot and has not AC power to it. I have a solar powered light out there and I tapped into the 12v power for the light to power up the camera. It doesn't draw that much and runs all night off the battery. The cameras on the house and garage that look out that way now see better out by the shed and it didn't cost me anything but a little time and some wire.

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On 2/2/2019 at 9:59 PM, IrisUsers said:

I also strongly suggest investing in a couple IR Flood Illuminators for whatever camera you get.  I've never seen ANY camera that has decent night vision using only internal LED's.

Do you happen to have any links or suggestions on IR Flood illuminators that you have tried or are using?

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When it comes to IP cameras, bitrate is everything.  Doesn't matter how great the camera is, if it cant send the video stream to the recording thing with a high enough bitrate, you'll get garbage.

Some cameras cant do it due to hardware limitations and others have issues due to network problems.

Here is a write up about it:

https://www.security-camera-warehouse.com/knowledge-base/camera-bitrate-compression/

 

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I only have the original Iris cameras to compare against, but those were not very good.  I have the Arlo system, a total of 13 cameras including Pro, Pro 2, and Q.  It's not a bad system but it's pricey.  They are getting into smart object detection (people, person, animal) as well as package detection (recognizing the UPS guy).  They just came out with a 4K system but I have no experience with that.
If you're considering SmartThings, Arlo has a direct integration, including the ability to start/stop recording, turn the cameras on and off, plus use the cameras PIR and video motion detection features as motion sensors in SmartThings.  


On Arlo... So the batteries operate for a while before you have to recharge them? It looked like you can plug them in but it says indoors. If you plug them in can you still have them outdoors and be water proof?

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On Arlo... So the batteries operate for a while before you have to recharge them? It looked like you can plug them in but it says indoors. If you plug them in can you still have them outdoors and be water proof?

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I could be wrong but from what it looks like is they charge with induction since there isn’t a port that it plugs into. I’m sure it says indoor because the plug side isn’t outdoor rated. I could be completely wrong but I gathered that from the pictures on their site.


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8 hours ago, dusterp said:

On Arlo... So the batteries operate for a while before you have to recharge them? It looked like you can plug them in but it says indoors. If you plug them in can you still have them outdoors and be water proof?

The Arlo Pro 2 and Arlo 4k cameras have exterior power cables and even solar panels available.  If you power those cameras you can enable video zone motion detection.  The side benefit is that it keeps the batteries fully charged, yet when the power goes out the cameras will continue to run on their batteries for weeks.

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12 hours ago, dusterp said:


 

 


On Arlo... So the batteries operate for a while before you have to recharge them? It looked like you can plug them in but it says indoors. If you plug them in can you still have them outdoors and be water proof?

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The batteries for the Arlos last a pretty good while.  That of coarse depends on how you set them up and where you place them.  You can set them to record while motion is present or record for a fixed amount of time.  If you set them in a high traffic area and have them recording all movement for 5 minutes then they may not last so long.   I have two on batteries and I can usually go 4 to 6 weeks before I need to recharge them.  They probably average 4 to 6 recordings a day. 

They can be powered outdoor if you purchase external power cables.  The power cables that come with them probably shouldn't be used outside. I have one powered with a solar panel and it works really well.  The Zone detection Irisusers mentioned can only be used if on constant power, it will not work if powered by a solar panel.. 

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