Tips for migrating to Hubitat
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I shutdown my Iris system last night and am now 100% on hubitat.  Not everything is functional yet, but I'll get there over the next month.

Here is what I've learned:

- Decide what type of system you want (primarily zwave, primarily zigabee, wifi, mixed, halfhazard, etc).  Iris was predominantly zigabee with some light support for zwave/wifi devices.  I've decided to go forward with primarily zwave with moderate wifi and minimal zigabee).   I set the zigabee channel to 25 to reduce wifi interference.

- Aeotec makes some great water leak, motion, buttons/fobs, and door/contact sensors.   I'll slowly replace many of my Iris devices with these.

- Zooz makes some great power plugs and strips, and these can complement the iris v2 smart plugs.  I really love the additional power usage reporting available.

-  Sylvania lights that worked with Iris also work with Hubitat.  Long term, it looks like new drivers for LIFX bulbs are under development.

Hubitat UI is more powerful than IRIS under the hood, but it needs extensive work to present information in the concise friendly manner that the Iris Web UI had.  It might take quite awhile to get that sorted, but I'm confident they'll eventually get there.

 

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I also just started this journey.  Got my hub up a couple of days ago, installed some Zigbee lights (Sengled) and connected to Alexa. Next is ordering some contact switches and motion detectors. Going to search the Lowles Junk bins for any V2 sensors. After watching some of the Hubitat forums in action I believe this will be a great community.

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Starting this myself tonight.  i know un-pairing from Iris needs to be done carefully. For those Iris V2 devices i have that are still new in the box, should I connect them to Iris to update firmware/etc?  And I just realized I may have bought some V3 contact sensors, we'll see how those work with Hubitat.

And with my network, I already have devices that have static IP addresses and/or reservations, but I have them in specific ranges (printers are at x.x.x.200+, cameras are x.x.x.5x, etc), is there a way via command line to set the Hubitat to an IP, or all you can do is reserve via MAC?

I'm using the loss of Iris to drive a "spring cleaning" of my network.

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On 3/2/2019 at 3:22 PM, Dredwolf said:

Starting this myself tonight.  i know un-pairing from Iris needs to be done carefully. For those Iris V2 devices i have that are still new in the box, should I connect them to Iris to update firmware/etc?  And I just realized I may have bought some V3 contact sensors, we'll see how those work with Hubitat.

And with my network, I already have devices that have static IP addresses and/or reservations, but I have them in specific ranges (printers are at x.x.x.200+, cameras are x.x.x.5x, etc), is there a way via command line to set the Hubitat to an IP, or all you can do is reserve via MAC?

I'm using the loss of Iris to drive a "spring cleaning" of my network.

I answered my own question about the sensors by pairing them, they match the firmware of the rest, and they are V2 contact sensors.

 

I choose to delay standing up the Hubitat hub just yet, I realized I have more questions that need answers.

 

 

 

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And probably the best tip you can get for helping yourself migrate to Hubitat....use the forums!

https://community.hubitat.com/

They do have a person on Support, but the forums are active, and they are very willing to help Iris "orphans".

Make sure you read up on Zigbee and Zwave, and get a basic understanding of which devices your are migrating use what type of communication, it will help you transition.

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On 2/15/2019 at 9:17 PM, MattM said:

Hubitat UI is more powerful than IRIS under the hood, but it needs extensive work to present information in the concise friendly manner that the Iris Web UI had.  It might take quite awhile to get that sorted, but I'm confident they'll eventually get there.

 

That is an understatement. I'm confident the developers at Hubitat want to create a user friendly system but right now it is anything but user friendly. I want to add my IRIS V3 Keypad to my Hubitat system and make it function like it did under IRIS. Hubitat does have a built in driver for this keypad (kudos to Hubitat) but so far all I've been able to do is add it to my list of devices where using the web interface I can arm and disarm my security system; however from the keypad itself I can only arm the system which basically means I don't have a security system. There is almost no documentation that explains how to use it or any keypad in a Hubitat security environment. There are over 20 panels on the V3 keypad device driver page with almost no explanation on what they are used for or how to use them to make the keypad function as a  device that arms and disarms your security system. Documentation for other parts of the system are sparse if it exists at all. Relying on the "community" to help you is hit and miss. I posted a request for help with my keypad issues. So far there have been been 76 views and no replies. Given all the views with no replies I have to assume that the majority of the people viewing are like me looking for a way to create a security system within the Hubitat environment using a keypad. 

Hubitat needs to hire an experienced documentation writer.

On the plus side I have been able to get a couple of lights to turn on and off based on a motion sensor sensing or not sensing any motion.  However I still can't get my living room lamp to turn on 30 minutes before sunset.

Hubitat has great potential but is definitely not ready for prime time. Currently it is only for those who enjoy trying to figure things out on their own and have a high tolerance for frustration.

 

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1 hour ago, GaryS1964 said:

Hubitat needs to hire an experienced documentation writer.



No argument there from pretty much anyone, including the Hubitat team.  They are right now, highly focused in building out the platform and expanding device support, which is no simple task!

1 hour ago, GaryS1964 said:

Hubitat has great potential but is definitely not ready for prime time. Currently it is only for those who enjoy trying to figure things out on their own and have a high tolerance for frustration.

The one thing Iris did fairly well was to simplify home automation so that the average user didn’t have to be an IT expert.   The best thing you can do for Hubitat, SmartThings, or any other system, is to forget how you did things in Iris!

As far as the lamp goes, install the native Simple Lighting app and create a new lighting automation.   I can give you a screenshot of one of my Simple Lighting automations.

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2 hours ago, GaryS1964 said:

Hubitat has great potential but is definitely not ready for prime time. 

I disagree, with the exception of my sprinkler controller, I have replicated everything I was doing in Iris and so much more.

Here's an example of a Simple Lighting automation to turn your living room lamp on 30 minutes before sunset.

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On 4/10/2019 at 10:02 PM, GaryS1964 said:

I want to add my IRIS V3 Keypad to my Hubitat system and make it function like it did under IRIS. Hubitat does have a built in driver for this keypad (kudos to Hubitat) but so far all I've been able to do is add it to my list of devices where using the web interface I can arm and disarm my security system; however from the keypad itself I can only arm the system which basically means I don't have a security system.

It sounds like you did add your keypad in HSM correctly.  In the keypad devices screen you may want to enable the enable lock code encryption option for security before adding users.  After adding your keypad and assigning the Iris V3 driver if needed, did you install the Lock Code Manager app and use it to assign users to the keypad, alternatively you could just assign users on the devices screen for the keypad but the Lock Code Manager app makes it easier.

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7 minutes ago, awraynor said:

I"m working on it myself. Everything paired except irrigation, one Zcombo smoke detector, one open/close sensor and my Schlage lock. 

My smoke detectors and the locks had to be fairly close to the hub to get them to pair properly.

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2 of the 3 ZCombo's paired without a problem, the 3rd one no such luck. I couldn't get the lock to pair with Hubitat or ST. One of the Hubitat members provided a process to try. I'm away for a few days so haven't had a chance to try. I did several factory resets and even removed it from Iris before it's death. Kind of suspicious that it doesn't see itself as removed. I even had the hubs pressed to the lock and no luck. 

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15 minutes ago, awraynor said:

2 of the 3 ZCombo's paired without a problem, the 3rd one no such luck. I couldn't get the lock to pair with Hubitat or ST. One of the Hubitat members provided a process to try. I'm away for a few days so haven't had a chance to try. I did several factory resets and even removed it from Iris before it's death. Kind of suspicious that it doesn't see itself as removed. I even had the hubs pressed to the lock and no luck. 

Did you use the Z-Wave exclusion before pairing?

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16 minutes ago, awraynor said:

I did z-wave exclusion on the hub before pairing. I think I probably haven't done something right. I'll try that forum members process an see if it works for me. 

I believe the issue you are having with your Z-Wave devices is because they were not totally excluded from your Iris hub.  The reason I say this is because I was having issues pairing 30+ of my 75 Z-Wave devices.  I tried everything I could think of and nothing worked.  To resolve this I fired up my SystronicsRF hub and ran each device through their Z-Wave reset process.  After completing this reset process Hubitat found each device on the first try.

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3 minutes ago, Vettester said:

I believe the issue you are having with your Z-Wave devices is because they were not totally excluded from your Iris hub.  The reason I say this is because I was having issues pairing 30+ of my 75 Z-Wave devices.  I tried everything I could think of and nothing worked.  To resolve this I fired up my SystronicsRF hub and ran each device through their Z-Wave reset process.  After completing this reset process Hubitat found each device on the first try.

I think you are probably right. I removed the lock from the Iris app, but not enough I guess. I'll try that approach. 

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On 4/10/2019 at 9:30 PM, IrisUsers said:

As far as the lamp goes, install the native Simple Lighting app and create a new lighting automation.   I can give you a screenshot of one of my Simple Lighting automations.

I have the "simple" things working just fine now. The main reason I purchased IRIS in the first place was security. Home automation was a plus. I can easily turn lights off and on manually if necessary although it is nice to have it happen automatically because I don't have to be home to have them come on or remember to turn them off when I leave a location such as the MBR Closet or garage. Being retired I have the time and having developed computer programs for others I possess some of the skills. I don't however speak the C language. I suspect I will eventually figure it out but it shouldn't be that difficult. Hubitat needs to hire an experienced documentation writer if they ever expect to become mainstream. That's my opinion. I'm hoping for the best for them but in the meantime I'm sorta frustrated and judging from some of the comments here and on their forums I'm not alone.

Personally I don't think they can survive as niche product. They need to go mainstream and to do that the average inexperienced user needs to be able to buy their product and use it using the provided documentation. Otherwise it will remain niche product. They also need a steady income stream. It's great that they are bringing all these different products together but they need to tell people how to put it all together. Some have apparently succeeded. I guess they got lucky or they possess more knowledge than I do. I quoted only the Simple Lighting part of your comments. That is a good start. Now they need to do the same thing for security. Once the basics (security and basic automation) are setup people can experiment and do more sophisticated stuff. Right now the "simple security" component is missing and I could be wrong but for me anyway if I'm going to spend the money security is important, in fact must have, and automation that simply provides convenience are a bonus. Those who used IRIS primarily for security, are not "geeks", and want something that works out of the box. They will be best served by looking elsewhere.....at least for now. 

Having said all that I stand by my original statement. Hubitat is not ready for prime time. However I still believe it has the greatest potential of the systems I explored. The one thing they are missing is documentation that will tell the inexperienced user who buys their hub how to set up security and how to set up some basic automation features. I'm not an expert but pandering only to "geeks" (I consider myself below geeks) is not the ticket to long term success, in my opinion.

On the plus side if Hubitat fails as a business there is an active group of users who can keep the product alive for those that own a hub. Hubitat can already do more than many systems. It's just not easy to get it to do some of those things.

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6 hours ago, awraynor said:

I did z-wave exclusion on the hub before pairing. I think I probably haven't done something right. I'll try that forum members process an see if it works for me. 

I only have two Z-Wave devoces. Both Utilitech sirens. The older of the two paired immediately the first try. The new one took numerous attempts over two days before it finally paired. Putting Hubitat in pairing mode before putting the siren in pairing mode seemed to make it work although after so many tries I don't remember what I did that got it to pair. The key is persistence for the stubborn devices. That's been my experience.

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33 minutes ago, GaryS1964 said:

Now they need to do the same thing for security. Once the basics (security and basic automation) are setup people can experiment and do more sophisticated stuff. Right now the "simple security" component is missing and I could be wrong but for me anyway.

The "simple security" component is not missing.  You just need to add the built-in Safety Monitor app. 

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20 hours ago, Vettester said:

The "simple security" component is not missing.  You just need to add the built-in Safety Monitor app. 

I have added the Safety Monitor app. I added it last week. It was one of the first things I did.  Please point me to the place in the documentation that it explains how to integrate a keypad into a Hubitat security system and what the 20+ buttons (clickable panesl?) on the Keypad device page are for and how to use them to setup your keypad. Please point me to the place in the documentation where it explains how to use the the Safety Monitor app to set up a security system that uses a keypad to arm and disarm a security system.  I could go on but I won't. It's not my intent to bash Hubitat. I'm letting former IRIS users know that Hubitat requires a significant amount of knowledge to setup a functioning security system and the documentation does not provide much (dare I say any) help.

May I make a suggestion. Instead of arguing with me about whether or not Hubitat is a good choice for the average former IRIS user why don't you simply write out step by step instructions on how to setup a security system using a IRIS keypad (V3 in my case) and IRIS motion sensors (V2 in my case)  and IRIS contact sensors (V1 in my case)? Better yet do it in the Hubitat forums where they would be available to all Hubitat users.

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2 hours ago, GaryS1964 said:

Instead of arguing with me about whether or not Hubitat is a good choice for the average former IRIS user why don't you simply write out step by step instructions on how to setup a security system using a IRIS keypad (V3 in my case) and IRIS motion sensors (V2 in my case)  and IRIS contact sensors (V1 in my case)? Better yet do it in the Hubitat forums where they would be available to all Hubitat users.

You are beyond help and I'm done dealing with you.  

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5 hours ago, Vettester said:

You are beyond help and I'm done dealing with you.  

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not the only one requesting help with setting up security using an IRIS keypad. I've only spent three or four hours on it and haven't worked on it in a couple of days. Most of the time spent was searching the Hubitat community forums and documentation. I have all the basic home automation stuff working which is a plus. There are still a couple more things in HA that I want to do. but all the basics are working.

It's just the security part I'm having trouble with and it is mostly the keypad. I can arm and disarm the system from the device manager page. I can trigger an alarm with motion and contact sensors. It's just integrating the keypad. But I'll keep plugging away at it. I think someone else here said it best. I'll paraphrase but my understanding of what they said was Hubitat is not a single app. It is a group of apps that do different things within the Hubitat environment. Sometimes you have to use multiple apps to get something done.

I'll keep plugging away and if I finally get it to work I'll post in Community.Hubitat how it's done so hopefully no one else will have to struggle with it. I'll also post a link to it here in this forum. I got the home automation stuff working so I'm confident I'll get the security stuff working. Fingers crossed.

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The clickable panels in the keypad object are for manual setup of codes, getting the current config, changing configurable options like grace periods...  You should never have to touch any of those if you are using the Lock Code Manager.  Hubitat has only been available for 1 year and they already support as many or more devices as SmartThings and all locally so I can understand the documentation being behind.  I agree when I first got mine I couldn't bring myself to switch to it because of the device management interface, when they introduced the Dashboard it helped but still wasn't what I wanted coming from Iris and SmartThings but after going through multiple outages on the vendors cloud side from both companies I decided to spend a few hours really trying to understand the Hubitat interface and how I could make it work for me.  So far I have everything working on Hubitat that I had in either Iris or SmartThings except my Neato botvac, that app hasn't been ported yet so I still have that on SmartThings.

In HSM under Configure Arming/Disarming/Cancel Options do you have the Arm-Away when mode becomes... and Disarm when mode becomes... defined?  What does your keypad do when you tap on, what does Hubitat do does it change HSM state or Mode?  What happens when you type your code and hit off?  When you click on does it show up in the device logs?

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