Do You Miss Iris? and General BS Thread
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Iris has been gone for a while now, and everyone has found a new HA/Security platform.

But I wonder, do you miss Iris or any of the features of Iris that have not been replicated on another platform?

Yes, I know Iris had it's bugs and other negative attributes, as does every other system.

I miss the web portal John created. I'm using SmartThings because I already had a ST v2 hub and a couple devices so it was an easy switch.

There are other features that are not in ST but there are of course features of ST that Iris didn't have.

If I had a choice I would rather be back with Iris vice SmartThings. With Iris and Alexa integration it was working pretty well those last 6 months.

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I definitely preferred Iris over Wink and SmartThings. Different reasons for each but Iris was more stable and reliable than either of the others I mentioned.


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No I do not miss Iris. I prefer the local processing I get with Hubitat and Blue Iris for my new cameras.

Iris V2 made my Iris cameras blind at night. It took a car with lights on to trigger them and no critters passing by the yard got picked up.

My wife likes the Hubitat app as she can do what she wants very easily.

Hubitat was not as simple as Iris, but with a little looking around and learning I can do everything I did with Iris in a locally  processed environment.

 

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Iris was by far easier for what it could do than any of the others (of course they supported far less devices so device health worked great out of the box and scheduling most things was very easy), however it was very limited compared to many others (far less devices, very limited rule capabilities).  I originally switched to ST since I had already had a v2 hub for a while then I switched almost everything to Hubitat for the local processing since ST has had so many cloud issues.  The only things I haven't been able to port from ST are our robo vacuums just because the great Neato Connect app on ST hasn't been ported or another like it created for Hubitat yet.  The only thing I like on ST more than Hubitat is the mobile app but @Vettester helped me figure out HomeBridge on rPI which is a great addition to Hubitat and since we have all Apple devices the Apple Home app works great as a mobile app.

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I don't miss Iris as much as I miss the interaction that I had with you guys on this forum.  Kind of like an extended dysfunctional family.  I also went with Smartthings and found that it does most everything that I used to beg the Iris developers to give us.  Having lost John's portal was difficult but I found a pretty reasonable substitute.  Simple Device Viewer.  It gives me all of the info that I need about my system on a PC and on my phone and you can turn switches on and off.  If you miss the portal, check this out, it is very customizable.  https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-simple-device-viewer/42481

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Oh thanks for that Otto. Yes, I miss everyone here too. I think Simple Device Viewer will go a long way to filling the gap. Thanks again.

 

One question though, where the heck do you d/l the app from? I don't see anything at that link you provided that directs me anywhere to d/l or install the app.

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1 hour ago, sparc said:

Oh thanks for that Otto. Yes, I miss everyone here too. I think Simple Device Viewer will go a long way to filling the gap. Thanks again.

 

One question though, where the heck do you d/l the app from? I don't see anything at that link you provided that directs me anywhere to d/l or install the app.

krlaframboise/SmartThings/blob/master/smartapps/krlaframboise/simple-device-viewer.src/simple-device-viewer.groovy

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5 hours ago, AndrewX192 said:

I don't miss Iris much because everything I need is in Arcus! Do wish they were still producing newer keypads, motion sensors, and contact sensors, since IRIS had some pretty good offerings in that space.

I have a bunch of all of the above if anyone needs any.

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2 hours ago, scunny said:

I have a bunch of all of the above if anyone needs any.

Do you have any of the v2 keypads and smart plugs?  I'd be interested in a few of each if you did.  Thanks.

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I like Ring alarm much better than Iris. Cellular backup and battery backup built in. The locks are way more responsive and can be used to arm and disarm. The things lacking are scheduling and geofencing. ST for automation is ok.


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Ok, I got the code and created the SmartApp and published to My Apps.

But when I go to Automation -> Smart Apps -> Add a SmartApp -> My Apps on my phone it's not there.

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13 hours ago, sparc said:

Ok, I got the code and created the SmartApp and published to My Apps.

But when I go to Automation -> Smart Apps -> Add a SmartApp -> My Apps on my phone it's not there.

You are using the Classic app?

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If you are adding the smart app the first time you need to go to the marketplace and add it from your apps.    Martketplace > smartapps> my apps(at the bottom)

 

It will then be in the automations.

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OK, that is a different path than I tried originally  ( Automation -> Smart Apps -> Add a SmartApp -> My Apps )

When I try Marketplace -> SmartApps -> MyApps it is a blank page, no apps listed.

So my error must be back when I created the app.

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I definitely miss Iris. I moved to hubitat and while it has way more capability than Iris it often seems glitchy.  Sometimes auto arming and disarming doesn't work and I can never quite figure out why. Iris was primarily a security system for me and it worked perfect, half the time I can't get Hubitat to arm when it should leaving the home unprotected. Just last night my wife complained when she got up to walk the dog in the morning the alarm was still on. When she tried to disarm through the keypad it took several times to actually get teh system disarmed. Turned out I have the system set to only disarm at 6am when her phone is home. But for some reason the presence on her phone only works for a few days before it has to be reset by opening the app and going to look at the geofencing map. Just frustrating. Looking into this last night I found several devices that have not been connected for a few days...no warnings about low batteries even though they are set to do so. Also found one V1 outlet that wasn't connected and won't repair to the system. I know Iris was unstable for a while but near the end was rock solid...I hope I get there with Hubitat.

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On 8/18/2019 at 4:43 AM, sparc said:

OK, that is a different path than I tried originally  ( Automation -> Smart Apps -> Add a SmartApp -> My Apps )

When I try Marketplace -> SmartApps -> MyApps it is a blank page, no apps listed.

So my error must be back when I created the app.

Did you publish the app after saving it?  If not click on the app in the IDE then "Publish" and "For Me".  As long as the Smart App show Published for the Status in the IDE it should show up in the list of My Apps.  Make sure in the IDE you only have one Location under My Locations, it's possible you have two (there was an issue a while back where ST would create a second location on its own which was confusing people) and your adding the app to the one your app doesn't use.

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17 minutes ago, Wlepse said:

I definitely miss Iris. I moved to hubitat and while it has way more capability than Iris it often seems glitchy.  Sometimes auto arming and disarming doesn't work and I can never quite figure out why. Iris was primarily a security system for me and it worked perfect, half the time I can't get Hubitat to arm when it should leaving the home unprotected. Just last night my wife complained when she got up to walk the dog in the morning the alarm was still on. When she tried to disarm through the keypad it took several times to actually get teh system disarmed. Turned out I have the system set to only disarm at 6am when her phone is home. But for some reason the presence on her phone only works for a few days before it has to be reset by opening the app and going to look at the geofencing map. Just frustrating. Looking into this last night I found several devices that have not been connected for a few days...no warnings about low batteries even though they are set to do so. Also found one V1 outlet that wasn't connected and won't repair to the system. I know Iris was unstable for a while but near the end was rock solid...I hope I get there with Hubitat.

We use both the Hubitat app and Life 360 integration for our presence detection.  We use the Combined Presence app to make a virtual out of the two so if one doesn't see us arrive but the other does it still disarms.  The only problem is if one doesn't see us leave and the other does it doesn't arm.  Lately they both have been very reliable but I'm on the iOS beta on my XS and my wife's on the Prod app on her 6s.

Battery monitoring has been hit and miss with any of the home automation systems I've used including Iris, most of the issue there is the devices tend to put themselves to sleep to conserve battery so don't report unless something changes to wake the device up.  I did find Iris's device health to be much more reliable and easier use than any of the others but I think that was because they supported so few devices they knew what info to look for on each to identify health.

I've been using Device Monitor which was ported from ST I think, you have to add devices that check in frequently (devices that report temperature tend to work fairly well, although I have a few devices that only want to report temperature for a few days then quit and I haven't figured them out yet) though if you add a garage door controller but go on vacation for a week so it never opens/closes than it likely won't check-in at all so will show offline.

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2 hours ago, Terk said:

We use both the Hubitat app and Life 360 integration for our presence detection.  We use the Combined Presence app to make a virtual out of the two so if one doesn't see us arrive but the other does it still disarms.  The only problem is if one doesn't see us leave and the other does it doesn't arm.  Lately they both have been very reliable but I'm on the iOS beta on my XS and my wife's on the Prod app on her 6s.

Battery monitoring has been hit and miss with any of the home automation systems I've used including Iris, most of the issue there is the devices tend to put themselves to sleep to conserve battery so don't report unless something changes to wake the device up.  I did find Iris's device health to be much more reliable and easier use than any of the others but I think that was because they supported so few devices they knew what info to look for on each to identify health.

I've been using Device Monitor which was ported from ST I think, you have to add devices that check in frequently (devices that report temperature tend to work fairly well, although I have a few devices that only want to report temperature for a few days then quit and I haven't figured them out yet) though if you add a garage door controller but go on vacation for a week so it never opens/closes than it likely won't check-in at all so will show offline.

Maybe I will try the Life 360 on her phone. Both phones are android but for whatever reason mine always seems to work.

The battery thing is a real PITA for water sensors. The Leaksmart sensors don't report properly and when they do drop off it triggers the shutoff valve and the siren. I really need to find another audible alert that isn't so intrusive since this always seems to happen at like 2am.

I will have to check out the Device Monitor...that sounds interesting. One thing I really liked about Iris and I believe ST has it to was a simple red dot to indicate a device had dropped off. It made finding out which devices had issues much simpler. 

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